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Posted By: View Profile/ContactVienaragis Jan 25, 2005 - 09:37 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Sometimes authors hide things from their readers, but once it's revealed the reader realizes that they should have known all along-- the clues where there, but they passed them over. Naturally, some people will realize it beforehand because the clues ARE there, but most people won't be aware of it.

I wonder if anyone had any tips on getting this sort of effect. In the story I'm working on I have two conflicting sides. One character is a part of both. He has abilities that allow him to look completely different, but is the same person at the core (though expresses himself differently and has different manners of speaking-- he is trying to act here).

The main character interacts with this character frequently on both sides, but doesn't know that her friend is also her enemy and that her enemy is her friend. I'm sort of stumped as to how to go about the whole thing. I don't want to reveal it and have readers complain that it was out of the blue, but I don't want it obvious, naturally. Would it be enough to just write it as if they were two different characters and hope that their personalities being so similar is enough for someone to say "Why didn't we see that coming?"? (And the fact that the character, as the protagonist's friend, has minor shapechanging abilities?)

Another problem I'm concerned about is having smooth transitions without making the readers (or the main character!) suspicious. Her best friend isn't around when she's fighting one of her more dangerous foes. Luckily, the main character is a lone wolf type, so she's rarely traveling or working with her friend anyway, and I figured the other character could just talk about having met or "taken care of" himself already in traditional "I'm such an awesomely cool bad dude" villain speech. (He likes to glorify himself no matter who he's pretending to be.)

 

Posted By: View Profile/Contactwoody000 Jan 26, 2005 - 01:12 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Well I'm no expert really, but I'd guess that more detailed plotting could help with that sort of thing. Then you could plan where to leave clues and not just hope that it "happens", if you know what I mean.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 26, 2005 - 12:42 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I agree. You can't just worry about this later. You should try and plot out what you're going to do in more detail and then find proper niches to hold minor clues. Don't just add it in their for the clue's sake. Help to incorperate it into the plot and make it not seem that it's there just for its own sake. And another plan you might want to consider is to gradually increase the evidence. Minor at first which then leads to more and more meaningful clues and then have the truth sprun on them like a starving tiger would pounce on live flesh... bad analogy, but I think you get the idea.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactVienaragis Jan 26, 2005 - 02:23 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Planning would probably be my weakest skill when it comes to writing, so I end up... not doing it half the time. I suppose this would be a good opportunity to get into the grove of it.

I'm really liking the gradual evidence idea, which for some reason I hadn't considered. Thanks for the feedback.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 26, 2005 - 02:26 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Always my pleasure. Good luck with the writing!

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Jan 26, 2005 - 07:28 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

One more thing that you may try... use surprise on that character. Have him be surprised and react to it, since that would most likely shake him out of his false persona, at least for a moment. That way you could have him explain it away, that he was just surprised, but later, when the same BG character in his other guise reacts similarly, it would be another clue. Of course, you wouldn't want to make it too obvious.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 27, 2005 - 01:15 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Aha! Tis som' good t'inkin' you's gots there, Aldan!

***Been reading The Adventure's of Huckleberry Finn. Can you tell?***

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 27, 2005 - 05:13 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Lol Magus, Thou art surpassing clever, but I am terribly wroth that I hath not read that aforesaid book!

***Been reading The Story of King Arthur and His Knights. Can you tell?***

LOL

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Jan 27, 2005 - 05:20 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

aforementioned? If you use that word, it'll make you sound more edjumucated...

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 27, 2005 - 05:48 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Aye. I ken ya'. 'Tis our ka that makes it so.

***I've also been reading The Dark Tower series for the past... oh, 6+ months now.***

LOL

 

Posted By: View Profile/Contactwoody000 Jan 28, 2005 - 07:00 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

lol *rolls his eyes*

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 28, 2005 - 02:21 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

edjumucated??
Wat do dat meen?

Actually I looked it up on Dictionary.com and got no matches!
You leg pullin' Aldan?

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 28, 2005 - 02:47 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

edjumucated is the unedjumucated way to say educated.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Jan 28, 2005 - 06:56 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Actually, there were no limbs touched in the making of my last post. I was simply being wry about trying to seem overly intelligent.
Now, did you look up aforementioned or did you look up edjumucated?

 


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