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Why are most heroes bastards, infants, or foster children?

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Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 19, 2005 - 01:43 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

LOL I checked out the link and was not dissapointed!

Fair...

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 19, 2005 - 01:45 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

The egg one? I knew you wouldn't be.

LOL

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 19, 2005 - 01:50 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

...ion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 20, 2005 - 08:23 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Ok, now it is your turn, check this out! ------->Cyborg

BenJaru

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 20, 2005 - 08:38 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I KNOW you will like it.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 20, 2005 - 12:06 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Mechanical
Android
Generated for
Ultimate
Sabatoge

Yep. That's me.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAslan Jan 20, 2005 - 01:53 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Magus, yes it detailed the whole culture, including child rearing. Very good.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 20, 2005 - 02:16 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

F.A.I.R.I.O.N.:

Functional
Artificial
Individual
Responsible for
Infiltration and
Online
Nullification

Close enought! But not as good as Magus.

Fairion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 20, 2005 - 04:23 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

MUHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 20, 2005 - 05:31 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

OH YEAH?!?!!

well i just infilterated your systems, and the sabatoge ends HERE!!!

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactDark Knight Jan 21, 2005 - 11:23 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Actually there was a Enterprise ep that covered three sexes, the third sex was tread as an underclass......

And YES they are making that Fantastic Four film.....comes out this year July 7 in NZ.....

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 21, 2005 - 12:38 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Yeah, I heard about that.

Sooo... how 'bout them bastards and orphans?

 

Posted By: View Profile/Contactjodyjuice03 Jan 21, 2005 - 03:09 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Sorry about that. I meant "orphans", not infants. I guess it's too late now.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 21, 2005 - 03:40 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Oh, well. I think people got the jist of it.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Jan 21, 2005 - 07:28 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Abou them bastards and orphans, using those two sorts of backgrounds makes creating an interesting character much easier for many writers. Many will have an orphan actually NOT be one as a matter of course (how do you cope with THAT, you who thought you were all alone in the world and suddenly find out that after learning how to deal with that you find yourself suddenly not so alone...
As for bastards, I've seen many stories in which the bastard, the son of a noble and a serf or whatever, ends up becoming the savior of the nation, protecting it from the abusive "true son of nobility" or whatever you want to call the BG...
What I find more challenging by far is to take an average, middle class character with two parents and several siblings and make him/her into a hero/ine, and make that character interesting and someone who drives a story...

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 22, 2005 - 01:22 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Lol Aldan, That is just what I am trying to do! But I guess I cheat a little, because I have the MC's parents get killed about the middle of the first book, he thinks his two siblings get killed too but they don't... Yet.

Fairion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactNeurolanis Jan 22, 2005 - 04:45 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Tarzan was about that. He was the son of a Noble family, and despite being raised by apes and becoming a savage, his genes begin to show with time. It's a good theory. Not that wealth and power equal good genes, but I believe in "good genes" absolutely. You pass gifts and curses onto your children, as they've been passed onto you. :D

Anyway, you might use Tarzan as an example of the "Genetic Hero", let's call 'im.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 22, 2005 - 05:02 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I LOVE the Tarzan books! You know, Tarzan is a very interesting name. I mean it IS Tarzan after all, but think of it separatly from the Tarzan books...

Fairion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactNeurolanis Jan 22, 2005 - 05:10 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I am always amazed how Burroughs CATCHES my attention right in the first line! In ONE LINE he'll throw you into a scene -- you see this, feel that -- and gets the action rolling. I can't think of ANYONE who can do that like him!

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 22, 2005 - 05:16 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Amen Brother Neurolanis, Amen.


Definitly an author to study...

Fairion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Jan 23, 2005 - 12:29 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

And have you read any of his Mars books or those of his other series'?

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBenJaru Jan 23, 2005 - 09:05 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Yep, read a few of his Mars books... And then came The Potter...

Fairion

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jan 23, 2005 - 02:39 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Ahhh... how we love The Potter... in a literary sense of the word...

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactNeurolanis Jan 24, 2005 - 04:03 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

No I haven't. I've got to!

 

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