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Scifi and Fantasy Forum: Speculation: Our Paranormal Experiences
Our Paranormal Experiences
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Demons, angels and other entities of subtle form may exist. That the human being experience has recorded ghostly presence has not to do with their existence or the validity of their existence but with the way man perceives part of the world we live in. Which is more often than not, subjective, lying under mood, physical state, psychological condition and potential and a host of other parameters, many of which are measurable, like the concentration of certain chemical substances in the body. Or such as the special need one may have at a particular time.
Some demons are of nature which may manifest in a way similar to what we call ghosts. Others are of various different kinds of nature - all that put in as simple words as possible.
Some demons are at work to deceive people. Not all of them doing it because they serve a larger plan. It is in their nature and perhaps purpose of existence.
Satan might possibly be perceived as exactly that in its manifestations. That compelling power is attributed to it, and the magnitude or force of that power, might be argumentative.
Of benevolent ghosts, there are witnesses. A benevolent entity goes where it belongs. (Goes or stays?)
Hm! *s* Some contended they witnessed the apparition of perhaps the most gentle of the human beings ever to walk on this planet, risen from the dead. Was not that a ghost, I wonder.
Posted By:  Ariel Mar 31, 2005 - 04:32 pm |       | A holy spirit !
I certainly believe that ghosts are real. Floating lights, orbs, abstract shadow forms, I've seen them all. But not always alone. I have seen things with other people. And several times a cat would see what I saw also. So, perhaps mood effects how you perceive things, but I doubt it is the cause of it.
And ghosts can be as they seem. I knew plenty of ghost storied about people who had died and only left after a certain thing was revealed, a room was refurnished, etc. But, it is possible that some entity familiar with the individual has assumed their form in "death", driven by the emotional desires of that lost human being. Perhaps these spirits exist inside each of us. It is an interesting idea. 
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 01, 2005 - 01:12 pm | | I believe in ghosts even though I've never seen one.There is a restaurant in a nearby town that is currently being investigated by paranormal researchers.I've been to this historical building and all the people working there have stories to tell.There was an article in a magazine about it.
The orbs you spoke of Neuro,are a fairly new phenomenon and people have different theories as to what they may be.As for a cat seeing something that you did,they say that animals are sensitive to those things.
Orbs are a new thing? I suppose I haven't heard historical paranormal tales involving orbs, just ghosts. I wonder what some theories could be on them? I know many say they're a purer physical form for a spirit, but this wouldn't explain why they are a newer phenomenon.
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 01, 2005 - 06:42 pm | | The cameras we have today are able to detect them.
As for the theories I'll have to check my reading material.
| Posted By: Utora Apr 03, 2005 - 05:22 am | | Has anyone actually had any paranormal experiences?
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 03, 2005 - 03:33 pm | | Have you Utoro?Would love to hear about
your experiences !!
Neurolanis, reading your morning post of 1st April, one wonders how you could possibly be so sure that you have seen _all_ kinds of ghosts - unless you have managed to compile investigating experience of the whole world of the paranormal. Or how you can be sure about _what_ a cat saw - unless you can communicate with felines. Unless both fall in the traditional humour of the day (1st April).
Nice font colours :-) but since they can't be read, one may attribute it to only play :-))
Ariel, any expert in the imaging industry may assure one that the cameras we have at our disposal today fall within the specifications and calibration necessary for us to record visual and audio signals well outside the human natural capacity of perception. Due to the inevitable limitations of technology, science and their progress, however, it would sound rather arbitrary nevertheless, for one to contend we are able to thus record _all_ of what lies outside the natural perceptive capacity of the humamn being, i.e. all manifestations or kinds of orbs, ghosts and such phenomena.
I remember an utterance said in a familiar tempest, something about there being more on earth and heavens than what our imagination can think of. (Shaking-a-spear and speaking to Horatio here.)
Utora, some have had. As one reads about them here and more abundantly elsewhere, two criteria for their validity might be some identification of any similar experience or some scientific evidence. Is there any interest about a particular field of paranormal experience?
The question arises because most people appear to converge to anything paranormal to do with death, their death actually although few of those who discuss about the paranormal do admit it is the fear about the end of their life which leads them to engage in such discussions. Not always, not all of them, of course! *s*
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 03, 2005 - 05:15 pm | | Sorry Lightbrigade,I've kind of grown fond of my color fontSeems that the appearance of orbs were first noticed when digital camaras
came into use,though I could be wrong.
It wasn't the fear of death that lead me to the fascination with the paranormal.After having precognative dreams,some knowlege of things happening before they actually occured,etc. left me open-minded to other phenomenon.Though I don't
believe every little thing I read or hear about,
it's difficult to dismiss everything as easily as
others...
How did I know what the cat was seeing? I don't. Sense we both turned out heads at the same exact time, looking at the same exact place, and reacted in a similar way to it -- startlement -- I just presumed.
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 03, 2005 - 06:48 pm | | that's what I would figure.I bet the cat sensed it first.
Yes!  He did.
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 08, 2005 - 02:48 pm | | Any new stories Neuro??Anybody??
Um, well, there's lots but I'm kind of tired. Getting late for me.
| Posted By: Ariel Apr 09, 2005 - 05:37 am | | O.K,When you're ready!!
People are gonna think us bonkers here, Ariel! lol. How many people are reading this and not commenting just see what what us whackos are rambling on about next?
Ok, one time I was going for a walk on the tracks -- that is, an abandoned railroad track that goes all through Canada, and right past here (you can go for a solitary walk through the woods the easy way! And of course, the tracks themselves have long been gone. Gravel and grass now.) Anyway, so it was a bright and sunny afternoon on a Saturday I think. Anyway, I saw this figure moving my way as I headed back home. It was very large and furry, and I was sure it was a bear, for its size, shape, and the way it moved. Yet, it walked easily on its hind legs!
I was obviously alarmed, but having seen many strange animal forms before it didn't seem at THAT unusual at first. When this creature noticed me heading its way, it would stop and look over the woods to the left (my left.) It was obviously nervous about me and wanted to sneak away but tried to act casual, like it was just looking over the woods to admire its beauty. When it was turned side-to like this, I couldn't help but notice that it looked more like a man. An old man, by the shape of the face and the intelligent way that it moved. Diffidently not a bear! An old man with a fur coat, I thought. Yet when it started moving towards me again I was reminded by its large size, build, and body fur. The way it moved, I was sure it was a bear! It kept doing this, stopping and looking back and forth, and then moving towards me again. A bear-man, I remember thinking.
Well, I had no idea what this thing was. I just told myself to be cool, and show no fear. I just sort of glanced at it somewhat, as the closer we got the more fearful I got. As we got close, I was surprised that -- despite how sunny it was and that we were not at all shaded -- the creature still appeared as a walking shadow form. Also, I could not hear its feet moving on the gravel! My feet were making quite a noise on that dry gravel, as there were no other sounds. No wind, planes going by, or anything.
When we got quite close -- guessing, maybe within thirty feet of each other -- he finally turned and walked over the high gravel edge, down through the bushes, and into the woods. I was amazed that he did this without making a sound! Not even a twig snapping! I hurried along and looked into the woods, which were quite open to my view. He was gone. There was no sound. Just past those trees was the highway, so, I'm not sure where he/it went to. I thought it some strange spirit who journeyed through the woods or something. I continued home, and practically forgot all about it.
Just a couple weeks ago I saw a report on Big Foots on the Discovery Channel. They described much like what I had seen -- a large, furry man, not quite animal and not quite man. An ape-man, who moves without sound and leaving no trace, etc. I'm not sure if that's what I saw, but a Big Foot at a distance might be described as a "bear-man."
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