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Posted By: ZimNova Jul 12, 2002 - 06:56 pm

I hear a song playing in my head;
If the show is a rockin', don't bother knockin', come on baby come on in.
Frelling Rippin' Episode.

Posted By: ZimNova Jul 12, 2002 - 08:08 pm

Written by Richard Manning....Woo Hoo. Back we are to the main story arc.
Aeryn looked great without any make up. Suffering from the Sebacean *heat delirium* she was fantastic dressed in a leather cat suit ala Scorpy with her long raven hair flowing and later in full Scorpy mode. Meoooow.
But that was only the beginning of the story as to what happened to her and on another track Moya.
Aeryn's part was answered but Moya's trip through the wormhole still remains a mystery?
Note: It looked like Scorpius in one short scene was using the same device he used to give Crichton his *neural clone* to insert one in Aeryn???
The pacing was perfect without the jerky editing we saw in WWL Pt.'s 1 & 2.
As an aside I taped this episode over *Lava* which is a first for me.

Scorpius Lives!!! I thought this would be the case. Old Scorpy always hedges his bets which should come as no surprise. However the bigger question is just how does Sikozu play out here? She can speak Pilot (so can Scorpius it appears) as well as other languages which should make her character useful in the future. Scarran perhaps?
I'm really growing to love Sikozu. Her character is willful, smart and sexy. She can stand up to Chiana on a one-to-one basis unlike Jool whom always seemed lost when dealing with Chi.

Oh, is Crichton one *love struck puppy* or what?
I have always liked relationships more in the Sheridan-Delenn vain from Babylon. Part of the story but not the story, and it's good to see this J/A thing in the background here as the *C* story.

There is of course much more, way more to discuss about this episode bring'ing us back to the kind of story telling we love about the show.
Well at least for me anyways.

Posted By: Nomad Jul 13, 2002 - 03:03 pm

Wow! Whatr a Frelling super episode. I must say I was right about having put Scorpy in the Klink. But, for how long?

I ABSOLUTELY was bowled over when I saw Aeryn in that cooling suit. Gave me the shivers. Poor John.... the writers did a good job with Johns psychy playing with him. I must have missed something somewhere with Sikozu and Scorpy. I thought she was turning on John when Scorpy Jumped him. However, it appears that Scorpy jumped him in order to get rid of Harvey! Is Harvey REALLY gone? At first , I was getting tired of all the Harvey banter, but I now realize that it was enough to show the last of Harvey with all the interaction. In fact, it seems to me that Harvey waqs still trying to eventually set himself up to control John again. Scorpy to the rescue!?!
Loved watching Rygel tossing the cooling rods. What a hoot.

Why didn't Aeryn tell Chrighton thqt she was pregnant? Is she pregnant? By the look on her face ...she either is...or was. Hmmmm

I expect to see some more serious twists in the story as the next eps progress. Wooo Hooo! Bring it on!

Posted By: ZimNova Jul 13, 2002 - 07:34 pm

Nomad.
There is ton of speculation out on the street (www.scifi.com/farscape) about Aeryn being preggers.
It ranges from:
The old witch was lying. To she had the child during the time called *some time later* in CK and her unnamed *employers* are keeping her child for safe keeping at her request thus her unwillingness to tell even Crichton who they were?
Bottom line for me is she ain't *showing*.
To me this is a bucket of dren. I really don't care one way or the other only because, as I have already posted elsewhere, I don't want to see a *Payton place in space*. Everybody concerned crying it up over a *love child*, T-John's kid or what?
Please spare me that!
Mine may not be the most popular POV but that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Scorpius may be a valuable addition to the crew but I still wonder if losing *Harvey* will serve Scorpius or John better?
Harvey has served as John's *conscience* when dealing with Scorpius as well as other issues over the last 12 or so episodes. Always ready to offer the minority POV as it were to Scorpius' plans.
To remove the *neuro-clone* may seem on the surface like a good idea but, as we have already seen over the course of the show, Scorpius is only loyal to Scorpius and he is a three time survivor.
This is why we tune in every week.
Questions?
Sure more questions. This is Farscape.

Posted By: Bmat Jul 14, 2002 - 05:11 am

I hope the child thing is a red herring. Or if there is a child that we are never bothered with seeing it. The Peyton Place description is a good one.

Posted By: Iznardi Jul 15, 2002 - 04:16 am

Yikes, congrats and honors to Capt and Zim for calling the Scorpius/Crichton alliance on Moya. I thought you were joking! I'm so glad were back in the A-story at last.


Zim: Scorpius jammed something into the side of Aeryn's head, or into her ear; either he was implanting a neural clone (I hope not, the Harvey bit has run its course) or he was introducing some kind of coolant bar.

Nommy: Yeah, Catwoman roll over, I think Sun is queen of the cat suits.

Interesting that they did this episode and answered almost no questions. We don't know what happened to Pilot and Moya or where they went. We don't know how Scorpius escaped from being buried alive or how he tracked down Aeryn (obviously he isn't working alone). We don't know what he's "got" on Aeryn, although he obviously had a hold on her that more than just her gratitude for his help. We don't know what Aeryn has been doing. We don't really know anything about Sikozu except the scary fact that she can speak Scarran. And, we don't know who the crew chose as their captain. I think we can rule out Rygel and Scorpius.

Posted By: fanuilh Jul 15, 2002 - 07:06 am

The scene when Scorpius implanted something in Aeryn's head was, I thought, a thought Chrichton was having. You know, one of his "hallucinations," or maybe they're just DK's way of showing what's going on in John's head. It was a fear he had, that Scorpius had done something to Aeryn, not a flashback to something that had happened. I thought. Anybody else?

Posted By: Nomad Jul 15, 2002 - 07:55 am

Well, we know that Sikozu was contracted to find the graveyard, but that got messed up when Chrighton interfered. She is from a Scarran controlled section of space, but , IMHO, we really do not know where her allegiences lie. At the moment I do not trust her. Especially with Scorpius. But, I DO like her.

Um...Didnt I see Scorpius drive something intothe back of Johns head when John was about to flip out and he ended up on Scorpius table in his cell. That was when Harve was abolished/ shot in the head.
I need to watch it again. Thank the gods that I taped it.

As far as Aeryn gos, yes...she does seem a little standoffish. Even to Chrighton. We REALLY need to know what has happened to her in all that time since she left moya. nThough Scorpy did say to cChrighton that he did no "harm" at all to her...that does not mean he did not do "omething" to her that would aid in Scorpy's future plans.

Posted By: ZimNova Jul 15, 2002 - 07:53 pm

Iz, that's a good observation. We "kind of" were shown what everybody went through during and after the *some time later*, time as seen in the CK period without being told any details!
Good writing trick that.
Same thing with Chiana & Rygel in WWL.

There was however a ton of stuff going on when one watches the tape a few times. This is all small, but I think, important stuff.

Sikozu was again watching how D'Argo uses the controls to pilot his ship. She's a fast learner.
Did Aeryn's re-appearance, be'ing all weak with that sad look on her face, bring a tear to your eye? It did mine. That's great acting in my book!
The *Crichton-Harvey* scenes were more *Reservoir Dogs* than *MiB*. That's just my take as I loved the former while I thought the latter was typical Hollywierd fare.

Pilot may have got the idea that the crew needs a single leader after witnessing the conversation between Chiana & Sikozu over what to do. No one is in command as a leader and Pilot only want's to serve, but serve whom?
I'm gonna skip over the whole alien thing, good looking alien and all but way to *Star Wars* for me. I did find it funny that Ullom only had a small ship and was using a holographic projection to make it look huge. Must have been a good hologram to fool Moya's sensors! But that begs the question; "What technology did Sikozu use to figure the ruse out"? I have the feeling that Sikozu's knowledge of Leviathans will be used to fine tune Moya and make her even better.
Sikozu gives a stasis command to shut down the DRD's in Scorpius' cell in *Pilot Speak* and she can speak Scarran. All these skills she brings aboard should prove useful in the future? Yes.
Woo Hoo, Granny free zone. It was such a relief to see Granny kicked on her a** by Aeryn.
Scorpius makes a good point when he tells John; "I saved Aeryn, the clone killed her".
Nomad. It all happened really fast but Scorpius did kill the Neural Clone for better or worse. Harvey looked kind of sad to be leaving too. Without hesitation.
Scorpius has a *spy* ah....*traitor* aboard Grayza's command carrier.

Interesting little tidbit near the end. John asks Scorpy if he really knows where Earth is and if anyone else knows?
Scorpy answers yes & no, the information is only in his head.
Ah but Grayza had Scorpius in the Aurora chair long enough to turn him into a boot licking wimp so was Scorpy lying or was he able to hold onto that data using something akin to how Gilina was able to fool Scorpius about her role in helping Crichton when John was in the chair?
Bottom line is Grayza "may" know about Earth. If that information would hold any value to her is the question?

Posted By: Nomad Jul 16, 2002 - 11:09 am

All this just makes me want to watch the next eps even more intensly!