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Posted By: View Profile/Contacttimoson Jul 18, 2004 - 02:00 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Ok, so i'm semi new to fantasy. I am in search of some new books. Lately i have tried a few books i wasnt to impressed with. eg

terry brooks (shanara), thought it was totaly uninspired.

terry goodkind, very iffy about... just started and am not all to inpressed with the dialouge and predictability.

didnt mind robert jordan, but not quite sure if like where the wheel of time is going.


Ive read fiest, (all of them) and loved them to bits. I want a book with a magician as the main character, that isnt too full on, kinda like pug!
I also have a distaste for the mundane and predictable.
Please help me with some suggestions!


thanks heaps

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Jul 18, 2004 - 05:36 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

The Following are books that I have read and are EXCELLENT. They are ell written and stand as a testement to fantasy stories everyware, in my opinion.

The Lord of the Rings by: J.R.R. Tolkien

The Dark Tower (series) by: Stephen King

The Hobbit by: J.R.R. Tolkien

Ella Enchanted by: Gail Carson Levine

Harry Potter (series) by: J.K. Rowling

The Sillmarillian by: J.R.R. Tolkien (a little dry but recommended if you enjoyed LOTR)

Ones that I have heard are very good, but have not yet read are the following.

The Vampire Chronicals (series) by: Anne Rice

The Eyes of the Dragon by: Stephen King

Eragon by:Christopher Paolini

NEVER READ BALDUR"S GATE BY: PHILIP ATHANS! HE IS THE WORST WRITER I KNOW OF AND BUTCHERED A BEAUTIFUL STORY!

On that note you may want to try Richard A. Knaak's adaptation of the game Diablo. Since he makes his own story of it. He doesn't follow the stories of the games, but has the world and a few characters from them. Legacy of Blood, the first book, actually takes placee inbetween the first game and the second. It's good for a quick read and is well written.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactLongShanks Jul 19, 2004 - 04:45 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

The Lord of the Rings: J.R.R Tolkien

The Silmarillion : J.R.R Tolkien ( For the sake of your brain, please be a huge fan...)

Eragon: Christopher Paulini ( Good, but after you read it for the 5th time..You realize that it is not the best.

The Artimus Fowl Series : Eoin Colfer.

His dark materials: Phillp Pulman.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactSpiels Jul 20, 2004 - 04:15 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

"Seventh Sword" the series by Dave Duncan might give you some inspiration as it has an entirely new approach to magic and swordplay of traditional fantasy. However, the main character is not a wizard or any sort. Don't get me wrong, the second and third books deal exclusively with sorcerors.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactPhoenix Nov 04, 2004 - 08:59 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Personally, I wouldn't go with Harry Potter. I find it children oriented, showing always Harry as the only powerful enough wizard to solve problems, problems caused by adults. And whenever teachers offers Harry help, he refuses. Aren't these teachers any good? As experienced wizards, they should be more powerful than Harry, even if he is destined to outgrow them.
I would suggest the other books you've listed, Magus.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Nov 04, 2004 - 01:30 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

What about your book, Pheonix. It sounds good. I'm sure that's one people should read as well, I would but haven't yet procurred a copy of it.

Also, The Talisman. Also, Black house. I haven't read them but hear that they are awsome from people I personally know and respect. They are both written by the team of Stephen King and Peter Shraub.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactPhoenix Nov 04, 2004 - 05:18 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Of course Magus, I'll vote for mine. But wouldn't that be biazed? I LOVE MY STORY. And dream every night about it too...
Well, if anyone here cares, there's the site:
www.phoenixuniverse.com
There's a link to reading the first chapter, that way, you'll have an idea of what you're getting into if interested.
I'm still working on part II The Fall of the Empire. 75% done. But it's still a draft. Too bad I lost some of my notes, it would have helped. I don't know if it's an artist thing, but my room is a mess. I keep losing things. The only reason I used paper was my laptop had a problem while I was on vacation. Couldn't fix it until I was home. I had to use hand writing. Wrote quite a few important things, but it's all gone now.
(sorry about the babble, I'm a writer, I can't help it!)

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Nov 04, 2004 - 05:32 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I'm quite the opposite. My parents have jokingly called me obsessive compulsive. I love to organize things (I dunno why) such as alphebetizing. Many times certain things are thrown around, but thems the breaks.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactPhoenix Nov 04, 2004 - 09:45 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I'm obsessed too. When I clean my room, I CLEAN my room. It just take 48h to mess it back up. The problem is I squezed the quantity of things you'd find in an appartment into one bedroom. I obsessed over losing things, that's why I rarely lose things permanantly. I usually manage to find back what I've lost, it's just a matter of time (six months later... ahah!). But this time... I don't know. I really can't think of what happened. And this is not some small thing. I didn't lose a pen or some batteries, I lost an entire 8.5X11 notebook! I still can't believe this.

Maybe you should come and organize my room!

...even if you get here, one look at it and you'll run out screeming: "it's impossible!!!!"

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Nov 05, 2004 - 01:47 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

LOL

Yeah... Let me have a crack at it. If I run off I'll come back with reinforcements.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactRaistlin_503 Nov 06, 2004 - 07:26 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

i only read the first two posts or only skimmed them

heres my suggestion:

Dragonlance and other books by:

Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman
Richard A. Knaak
Nancy Varian Berberick

:)

 

Posted By: View Profile/Contacteterna1177 Dec 09, 2004 - 05:15 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

hey im new to the site and im starting to write a fantasy book called darkness of eterna and starting run out of ideas, can someone tell me good ways to get ideas because im stuck

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactBmat Dec 09, 2004 - 11:27 am Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

HI, Eterna! Welcome to the site.

Double posting isn't allowed, so when you decide whether you want to keep this message or the other, one will be deleted, as well as this message by me.

Bmat
Moderator

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactAldan Dec 09, 2004 - 08:38 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

read my suggestions on the other posting, eterna.
Oh, and what Queen Ehlana suggested, though it was done abruptly, was also very useful. Many writers are worried about "stealing" from other writers if they read while they're writing. However, this is one very strong reason why they've not been published. Writing is a shared hobby or profession. Just make sure it's not thieving an entire concept/race/worldtype like making a clone of it, and if you really FIT IT into your world, then the things you used to make it fit will make it much more yours. You can credit a writer for an idea in the foreword, if you wish (and I'd suggest it!).

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactPannion Mar 25, 2005 - 12:44 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

I would suggest the following:
Glen Cook - The Black Company Series
Steven Erikson - Malazan book of the Fallen (very complicated - lots of mages -well written
McAffery - dragons - kind of childish
Matthew Woodring Stover Hero's Die - Blade of Tyshalle (awesome story read about 10 times)
Thomas K. Martin - The house of Bairn
This should get you started.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Mar 25, 2005 - 08:24 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

A Wizard of Earthsea by: Ursula K. Le Guin

It's a bit detached in the narroration at times. But the characters are full and well felshed out. And the events vary from witty to whimsical, but always entertaining.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactVegeta72 Mar 30, 2005 - 07:15 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Out of the ordinary, Stephen R. Donaldson's "Chronicles of Thomas Covenant". Deep and...well, different than most other fantasy I've read. Tolkien remains the best though.

 

Posted By: View Profile/ContactMagus Apr 06, 2005 - 01:30 pm Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page/Submit ReplyRight click to create a link to this message  Search for posts by this user

Agreed. I doubt I'll find any book that will ever top that in my mind.

 


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