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Posted By: Gaela Oct 03, 2002 - 03:17 pm

I was very looking forward to this book as I loved Martin's "Song of Fire and Ice". What a disappointment--way too many characters to follow and caree about, threads and concept started and dropped, killing off the characters.
Then I got to the end of book two, and the story had no conlcusion. We leave Daenyrus in the middle of nowhere still plotting to take over the thone. It's not finished. Is there a third book? So far as I knew there was only two, so this makes no sense.

Posted By: eddie437 Jun 08, 2003 - 01:26 pm

Too many characters to follow? I take it you don't read complicated books. If that is the case then you shouldn't be reading this series. Eddard Stark dying was part of a plan, it wasn't just dropped, it was meant to happen from the beggining. And the second book is book 2 of a SIX book series, you can't have too much conclusion in the second book. As for more books, the third one is completed, in paperback as a matter of fact. The fourth books is being worked on and isn't finished yet. Though I believed the third book was the best of them, you may not believe that, because it gets more complicated, with more characters, and more deaths. It isn't too hard to find out if there are more books, you can check amazon, which would have been quicker than typing a message here. All you had to do was type in: A Song of Ice and Fire or George R.R. Martin and it would have come up with all his books. Or you could have checked his website.

Posted By: Adam Jan 06, 2004 - 11:13 pm

I love this series. I like that the author gives even the bad guys some depth, which is often missing from books.

And yes: EVERYONE DIES!

Posted By: Windborn Mar 19, 2004 - 06:35 am

Yeah lol so many characters die. The only one who 'died' but survived was Eddard Stark's wife, though I have no idea how she survived getting her throat cut.

Posted By: TerminalFrost May 26, 2004 - 10:34 am

She was revived by Thoros, remember? She's become the elegantly-named UnCat.

Anyway, I in no way understand the original posters objections. I'm a great fan of the quite unorthodox story (and story-telling techniques) of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire-series, and I'm dying for the next book...

Posted By: Magus Jun 03, 2004 - 04:34 am

I haven't read it, but it sounds like I'll want to. It's funny because I came onto this post because I thought is was taking about the song "Fire and Ice" by Pat Benetar and I was wondering how that was fantasy. LOL I'll try to give it a read when I can, but after my summer reading.

Posted By: Phoenix Nov 04, 2004 - 09:09 am

Soundz like an interesting series, I'll have to add it to my to read list.

Posted By: Pat0214 Nov 15, 2004 - 01:33 pm

It's a very good series of book, can't wait for number 4 to come out.

It's not a typical fantasy series, where you know the good guys will live and the bad guys will die. Anyone can die (like real life) and some of those good guys are not what you would normaly see (tall, good looking, almost parfect) they have flaws and are as interesting as the bad guys.

It's a very hard series to read because, yes there are lot's of characters and as many plots and sub-plots as characters. My suggestion is take your time reading it.

Posted By: Magus Nov 16, 2004 - 01:09 pm

That's good advice for anything a person decides to read.

Posted By: Aeawyn Jan 11, 2005 - 12:22 pm

Lol at first i thought this was about Frost's "Fire and Ice"

Which that poem owns all others.

Never read this series.

Posted By: Magus Jan 11, 2005 - 02:54 pm

Yeah, looks like I'm not the only one who mistook the title. But it wasn't Frost that I thought of. It was Pat Benetar.