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Posted By: Sindatur Aug 23, 2004 - 10:42 am

From Mugglenet News. Contains spoilers of what's in and what's out for Goblet of Fire:

Exclusive sneak peek: GOF what's in, what's not
MuggleNet reader Blackstar has sent us some information about what is included in the upcoming GOF film. Be forewarned, it contains major spoilers about the movie. Remember, this information is unconfirmed for the time being.

Last chance to turn back before being spoiled

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--->I used to work with a movie review site, and still get reports from some people who think I still do work there. Nowadays I don't use them, but this one I thought I would pass onto you. It contains MAJOR SPOILERS on the upcoming GOF film. My contact got about a half hour alone with a script while doing some work connected with the film. She didn't get to read it through and through, obviously, but got to do a good look of what's in and what's not. Here's a breakdown: (BEGIN SPOILERS) What's been cut: the SPEW storyline altogether, opening scene with the Dursleys, the Hogwarts express (there are shots of it, but nothing in the train,) and the wand weighing. What's still in: Creepy opening scene with Voldemort, Wormtail and Nagini. The Dark Mark scene, the "Potter Stinks" bit, the skrewts, the horntail challenge, the merpeople challenge (should be very cool!) The final challenge, although the spider may NOT be in it. (My source didn't remember seeing it.) The Sphinx is in. So is Dobby and Winky, the Portkeys, Crouch freaking out, the Pensieve scene and Cedric's end. Things that are drastically cut: Yule Ball, Quidditch World Cup, Rita Skeeter stuff (she's in it, but not as much as the book,) Harry stressing over the egg clue, Snape scenes (he's not in it much,) Hagrid & Maxine love story (it's there, but just reduced to a few brief moments for humor,) Dumbledore's humor (again... they never get him right!) Note on the ending: they manage to get it all pretty much in, which is surprising given what's going on. END SPOILERS. I have to tell you, I was disappointed when I heard they cut this from two movies to one, but it sounds like they really pulled it off. The second challenge really acts as a mid-movie action sequence that should blow the doors off of a lot of what we've seen so far in the films. The final challenge also sounds amazing, and the ending should be really creepy. I know they say this with every movie, but this one could be really eerie (not just "dark" because of the very evil Voldemort scenes. Not sure what the young ones will think of it. This stands to do justice to the book, and be the best movie of the series! (And after Cuaron's work, that's saying something!)<---

Posted By: Bmat Aug 23, 2004 - 10:50 am

Thanks, Sindatur. I wonder, too, about young children. It will be a shame if the omitted scenes really aren't there, since it seems to have become customary to include two of them sometime in the movie.

Posted By: Sindatur Aug 23, 2004 - 11:10 am

I wonder about the dropping of the SPEW storyline in total. Alot of people aren't interested in the whole SPEW thing and have felt it was a waste of space, but, JKR has indicated it's important. We have Chamber of Secrets to show Predjudice, and all the occurences afterward of Predjudice, so, if SPEW isn't important to drive home Predjudice further what is the importance of that storyline? The origin of the enslavement perhaps?

Posted By: MrB Aug 24, 2004 - 05:49 am

er... SPEW?

Posted By: Sindatur Aug 24, 2004 - 06:05 am

Sorry, S.P.E.W. (Don't remember the exact words, but basically Hermione's efforts for Protection of the House Elfs)

Posted By: Iznardi Aug 24, 2004 - 08:34 am

I think it might be the Society for the Promotion of Elf Welfare, but I'd have to go back and check. And, as Hermione constantly reminds Ron, it's not SPEW its S-P-E-W.

Posted By: MrB Aug 24, 2004 - 12:02 pm

aah yes, now I remember, it's been ages since I read that book

Posted By: Iznardi Aug 26, 2004 - 12:17 pm

Film Watch.
From the Leaky Cauldron and CBBC:

"CBBC Newsround has posted a story about filming of scenes for the upcoming Goblet of Fire film. At the Bodleian Library at Oxford University, scenes with Mad-Eye Moody(Brendon Gleeson), Professor McGonagall(Dame Maggie Smith) and others including Crabbe( Jamie Waylett) and Goyle( Josh Herdman) are being filmed.

"They went into New College which looked like it would be used for filming Hogwarts scenes. A man carrying a long, dark coat - the costume for Mad Eye Moody - went in, followed by a car with Dame Maggie Smith who plays Professor McGonagall, in it. This was definitely the place to be to see some action! Then all of a sudden, a bucket of water from above fell on me! And then another! It turns out they were filming on the roof and were wetting it by chucking buckets of water everywhere.


While drying myself off, I then heard someone shout 'Action!' and then the booming voice of Mad Eye Moody, played by Brendan Gleeson, echoed through the air.

The doors to the college opened and I could see a courtyard inside. Some kids dressed in black Hogwarts robes were walking around inside, including Malfoy's pals Crabbe and Goyle. Then about 50 kids dressed in raincoats to cover their robes came out in rows of two - as if they were actually in school - and marched up to the Bodleian Library where they disappeared inside."

Note from iz: This could be the scene in which Mad-Eye Moody transfigures Malfoy (I think McGonagall intervenes).

Posted By: Bmat Aug 26, 2004 - 12:29 pm

Thank you, Iz!

Posted By: Iznardi Aug 27, 2004 - 09:19 am

Film Watch.

More on Goblet of Fire, first an except from the Leaky Cauldron, but then I recommend a visit to the featured site. It has a long account of the filming of the pensieve scene, the trial of Kakarov.

Excerpt:

HP4U had posted a report from the set of the upcoming Goblet of Fire film. There are descriptions of the set used in the Pensieve scene with Karkaroff.

"Wow, I wish you could all get a picture of it, words cannot describe the effect.Made of course to look as though Harry has gone back in time, imagine Dickens and all those old bookshops, or Ollivanders, stacked full of items, this is the effect of the court, full, stacked with mountains of papers!.The artwork and set decoration of the court room is immense, it looks ancient, Byzantium times, the old ruined golden paintings and the realism was great."

HP4U site. Full account is posted under the News link, must scroll down to end of first article to get to the one on the pensieve:
HP4U Home

Posted By: Sindatur Aug 27, 2004 - 10:52 am

Wow, Pensieve scene? Surely they can't be that far along in filming in order? They must be filming out of sequence and, and matching up later. If that's true, I hope the kids don't age too much during the filming. I'd hate to see back to back scenes showing the trio younger than older than younger, etc.

Thanks Iz

Posted By: Iznardi Aug 27, 2004 - 11:58 am

Sind, in most of the scenes described so far, the principals were not on the set. At Oxford, only the teens that play Goyle and Crabbe were observed on the set. I'm guessing that the shoots for Daniel, Rupert, and Emma are bunched together (although Daniel Radcliffe must be on set most of the time once they start shooting the major scenes).

Posted By: Sindatur Aug 27, 2004 - 02:20 pm

Ah, that's more comforting. What we've heard so far about the movie, gives me a pretty positive outlook. The scenes from the book that are cut in the movie that have been related to us, seem to be OK in my book.

Unconfirmed rumor of OotP Movie Director inquiry (taken from Mugglenet)

According to Brazilian entertainment site Cinema em Cena, director Mira Nair has been asked to direct Order of the Phoenix. When contacted regarding the information, an intern at Nair's office said she wasn't aware of any such announcement. Therefore, please consider this information a rumor until we receive more information. Thanks to OdFHP.com for the heads up.

Posted By: Dark Knight Nov 17, 2004 - 12:16 pm

Michael Goldenberg (Peter Pan) has come on board to write the next installment in the Harry Potter film series, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, which will be the first in the franchise not penned by Steve Kloves, Variety reported.

Posted By: Magus Nov 17, 2004 - 12:59 pm

At the pace they're going all of the kids will eventually need to be recast, unless they want a grown (wo)man acting out a teenager's role.

Personally, they should have waited for all of the books to be released and written before they went ahead and made the movies.

Posted By: Sindatur Nov 17, 2004 - 02:39 pm

At the rate of two movies per 3 years, that's only about 2010 (or 6 years) and that means the kids will be about 20-22 playing 18 year olds. Not at all unlikely. Look at all the mid to late 20s people playing high schoolers. Beverly Hills 90210, Head of the Class, Dawson's Creek, etc.

Moaning Myrtle was playing a 16 year old in the second movie, and was 33 at the time.

Posted By: Magus Nov 17, 2004 - 03:25 pm

Hmmm...

I guess that, using the information and logic you presented, it's not going to be bad at all. I had this horrable vision of 30-40 year old Harry.

But how will they keep up that pace when they hit the wall of published books?

Posted By: Sindatur Nov 18, 2004 - 05:58 am

Well, there's only 2 books left. It should be no more than 3 years since Book 5 was published until Book 6 is, although convential thought believes we will be hearing by the beginning of 2005, that Book 6 will be released by end of Summer 2005. She's already released Chapter titles for 3 chapters, the latest chapter was 14. She's pretty fussy about releasing information before she is certain, she also has given hints that suggest she won't need to be doing major rewrites, which means in her mind that she must be very far along in the writing, as her experience with GoF was that she ended up going back and rewriting at least half the book to remove a character that didn't work, and she has is pregnant, and says her pregnancy will not impact the release of the book. I believe her delivery date is in February, so odds are she will release it to her Publisher for final editing, etc no later than February. So assuming she does release book 6 in Mid 2005, and GoF movie comes out in November 2005, the movies for book 5 and 6, can be released in the next 3-4 years, and by that time, book 7 should be at least close to being done, so, I don't think there is danger of the movies catching up to the released books (IE: there are currently 4 movies left to come out, 1 coming out late next year, and 2 books to come out, 1 of which is believed to come out mid next year)

Posted By: Magus Nov 18, 2004 - 04:54 pm

That seems feesable/logical. This situation is looking better all the time, thanks to you and the information you provide.

Thank you.

Posted By: Bmat Mar 02, 2005 - 04:00 pm

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=30491

"David Heyman, producer of the upcoming fourth Harry Potter movie, The Goblet of Fire, told SCI FI Wire that filmmakers, led by director Mike Newell, trimmed the 700-plus-page book by following a simple principle: "Anything that doesn't really relate to Harry and Harry's journey is less relevant." Speaking during a break in filming on the set at Leavesden Studios outside London earlier this month, Heyman added in an interview: "That's not to say that there're not minor detours. Inevitably there are. But there are certain things that we don't spend as much time with as they do in the book, just by the very nature of the material."

One example: The film will not deal with the subplot involving Winky and Dobby, two house elves, and the issue of elf liberation. ...

SCI FI Wire glimpsed a bit of filming during the recent set visit, including shooting inside the Weasleys' suprisingly spacious tent at the Quidditch World Cup. New sets for the film include the tent, a massive cemetery (where the film's climax takes place), a trophy room filled with silvered plaques and cups of various sizes, the Ministry Box at the Quidditch World Cup stadium, and a faux marble Trial Chamber, which rises several stories high. Filmmakers also constructed a large tank surrounded by green screens, where Daniel Radcliffe (Harry) and other actors performed underwater scenes, which will be enhanced with computer animation in post-production. And a massive Dragon Arena sits outdoors, where Harry and other contestants in the Triwizard Tournament will try to procure eggs from the flying beasts. ..."

Posted By: Mogget1 Mar 02, 2005 - 08:55 pm

I am glad the house elves will be left out. I was never that excited about that particular subplot.

Posted By: Sindatur Mar 03, 2005 - 06:03 am

The S.P.E.W. stuff is Ok to leave out, but, I was looking forward to seeing Winky getting busted at the World Cup with the Wand, and then boozin' it up in the Hogwarts kitchen. I wonder how they'll handle the Dark Mark at the World Cup?

Posted By: Iznardi Mar 08, 2005 - 01:22 pm

Winky is never wanting to be in a movie, sir. Winky is a good house elf.

Posted By: Bmat Apr 06, 2005 - 06:19 pm

http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/gallery.aspx?gallery=7640

Some photos from the movie.