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Scifi and Fantasy Forum: Movies: Where Have Movies Gone Wrong?
Where Have Movies Gone Wrong?
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Posted By:  Magus Aug 07, 2004 - 03:23 pm |       | So sad and so true.
| Posted By: manji Aug 13, 2004 - 10:29 pm | | You might say, sense Godzi's left Japan he's lost his balls.
Asian tradition says that all dragons originated from China. There, they had six toes. When they moved farther away from china, the more toes they lost. In Korea, they had four. In Japan, three. I guess after Japan, the loss factor moved northward a bit, eh?
Ah, but Godzilla's not a dragon. He's a prehistoric dinosaur (is there another kind?) who has been mutated by radioactivity from an a-bomb.
One Tuatara to another: "why do they always talk about dinosaurs and dragons, one is extinct the other is made up"
"keeps them from finding out about us"
"oh, yeah I see your point"
"I'll get the drinks...."
Sky Captain...terrific popcorn movie with an Indiana Jones flair. So what if it's all CG? The stylistic, comic book look works terrifically, no profanity and merely innuendo in place of sex. Kudos.
| Posted By: Hyperion Nov 01, 2004 - 10:35 am | | "The Rats of Nimh"
I remember as being a movie I was enthralled in watching as a child 
Also for some seriously weird reason, I remember being very happy while watching,
"Summer Holiday" with, "cliff richard"
in it, can't for the life of me think why though!  I just remember being really happy watching it as a child lol.
Lets think, any more... hrmm....
Coincidentaly and very relevant to how things influence one as a child and teenager..
I remember my all time favourite film as a teenager, and the film that made me start smoking!!
"The Hitcher" with, "Rutger Huer"
staring as the main leed bad-guy.
I really did love that film, I watched it, over and over and over, again and again lol.
Other films I can remember enjoying as a child, not a teenager are,
"The Star Wars trilogy" &
"Indiana Jones Movies"
and also most unforgetably, the Speghetti Westerns I used to watch with my father, films like,
"The Good The Bad and The Ugly" and,
"A Fist Full of Dollars" and also,
"For A Few Dollars More".
I am sure there are more, it's hard to think of them of hand right now...
Oh Oh one more I just remembered I really really enjoyed
"The Black Hole"
I loved those two dinky little flying robots, "V.I.N.CENT and Bob" And Maximillian looked awsome as the baddy robot
Great film hehe
Hyperion
| Posted By: Magus Nov 01, 2004 - 01:16 pm | | How about those stupid Air Bud movies? You know, the dog died after filming each one of those due to concussions recieved hitting those balls. How is that not animal cruilyty? They aren't even that good, hnow f=do they justify it?
| Posted By: Pat0214 Nov 04, 2004 - 09:22 am | | legiondary,
I totaly agree with you, Sky Captain was a very good movie...it was a sort of "hommage" (excuse my french) to the 40's serials and to Indiana Jones. I was actualy quite surprise by it. I was looking forward to seeing it but figured that it was probably going to "suck" (excuse my english).
What I like when watching a movie is to actualy be surprise by how entertaining, well made and fun the experience of watching it was. This use to happen to me more once upon a time long ago, but it will still happen once in a while.
In recent years The Matrix (I mean the first one) was a huge surprise. It was well made, lots of action, you cared about the story and the characters and the actors (specialy Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith) did not let the CGI or effects break their performance. Another movie that really surprised me recently was The Pirates Of The Caribbeans The Curse Of The Black Pearl. There wasn't one minute, from when the movie began to the ending were I could say I was a even a little bored. That movie was extremely well made and it's too bad it came out the same year as LOTR The Return Of The King, or it might have fare much better at the Oscars (or so I would think)
But I think movies are a bit like wine, with time and age they become better. Something that you might have thought as being a disaster when it first came out in the theaters, looking on it today might be a much better movie.
Well, I've been going at this for too much time already. :-) Take care everyone
| Posted By: Magus Nov 04, 2004 - 12:51 pm | | I thought Sky Captain was more '50's myself. But that doesn't really matter much.
The origional Matrix was AWSOME! The second couldn't have been much worse. The third was a decent movie. Considering what a crappy sequel it had to finish up I think it was as good as it could have been. But The Matrix is another example of a movie that they should have let lie, good the way it was and only made worse with sequels, especially the one's it ended up with.
The Pirates of the Carribean was an awsome movie, to be sure. I still tire not at the action, plot and, yes, even the jokes. It didn't overuse graphics at all, as most movies go graphics need to be done in moderation. It has an awsome score that I love listening to all the time, and my mother even more so then I.
The Lord of the Rings is the same way, only to a greater extent. I could get more into this but a topic already hold many of my long winded opinions on this film and I don't want to bog you all down with them at this moment.
Take care Pat0214
| Posted By: Pat0214 Nov 08, 2004 - 11:41 am | | I doubt anyone is bored by your comments Magnus :-)
sorry for being a bit late on this reply. I had to fly home to Montreal during the weekend and come back to Chicago where I am currently working, did not have much time.
The Return Of The King wasn't the best of the three for me, in fact The Fellowship get's my vote for the best one.
What really bother me with the ROTK was the way the played Denethor and Faramir. Yes Denethor was demented by the battle of the Pelennor Fields and yes he did try to burn Faramir alive but he was never so mean to his second son nor as crazy as show in the movie adaptation. The rest of the movie was amazing but that part with Denethor really bothered me. The performance of the actor John Noble was lacking specialy when you compare it with what Bernard Hill did as Theoden.
Maybe with the added scenes in the extended dvd edition some of it will make a bit more senses. That's what happen in TTT with Faramir. The added scenes in the dvd show a much different character.
| Posted By: Magus Nov 08, 2004 - 01:10 pm | | Cool. I live in South Chicago-Land. What are you working at?
My main problem was how they portrayed Faramir in The Two Towers. I loved him, brotherly love, and he was one of my favorite characters. They played him the opposite of what he should have been. And then there's the whole deal with not having Sauroman of Many Colors, that was important. I don't like how they aren;t including The Scourging of the Shire in the extended edition.
Other then that there were a few book to movie mistakes that my sister and I found. The Ring was never ojn anybodies ring finger. The Ring was on the wrong hand when Gollum bit it off. Gollum had more then six teeth.
| Posted By: Hyperion Nov 09, 2004 - 06:22 am | | Thankfully we do still have a few good directors and plenty of decent writers around.
It's just getting the Hollywood or other financial agencies to back the movies and get the stories told.
Hyperion
| Posted By: Pat0214 Nov 09, 2004 - 06:37 am | | Greetings Magnus,
I am actualy in Glenview working at Aon on Milwaukee road.
My brother pick up the mistakes in LOTR much faster than me. He's a big fan of the books but he was actualy please with the movie version.
| Posted By: Magus Nov 09, 2004 - 03:54 pm | | My sister's practically a Tolkien scholar, no joke. It's like she's studied him and his works all of her life, at least as far back as I can remember. I've learned from her. I am not a Tolkien expert, but I have a good knowledge of how it all worked out.
I figured everything I mentioned above by myself, shows how big of a nerd I am, except the ring being on the wrong hand. My sister picked up on that one. As soon as she saw it she took the book, I had just finished Return of the Ring in the car before the movie, and flips to the exact page within 15 seconds of getting it and shows that they made the mistake. That shows how intimate her knowledge of it is.
| Posted By: Pat0214 Nov 11, 2004 - 12:23 pm | | I've read the books a few times but I would never have pick up the ring being on the wrong hand or the wrong fingers.
Usualy I will notice details on historical movies, like a war movie for example. I usualy notice real quickly when I see a machine gun in a civil war movie ;-) Just kidding
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